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In this episode, Jason Stein interviews Christine DeLozier, acupuncturist, herbalist, Chinese Medicine expert, and author of “Diet for Great Sex,” a guide that walks readers through the specific foods that lead to great sex and dives deep into the science of how it works.

When an acupuncture client came in asking if she could help them improve their sexual health, Christine DeLozier began to search for the root of what makes sex great physiologically. She discovered nerves, blood vessels and hormones operate in synchrony was the secret to success - and that this trifecta could be affected by diet. Now, she uses this knowledge to help people develop dietary strategies to live healthier lives - in and out of the bedroom!

Join Christine and Jason as they talk about:

  • The psychological and physiological ingredients of great sex
  • How antioxidants reduce sexual dysfunction
  • Why you should start incorporating leafy greens into your diet - stat!
  • The small dietary changes that create big results
  • Ideal date-night foods and cocktails
  • The effect of environmental toxins on hormones and fertility
  • Why nutrition isn’t as prevalent in Western Medicine

About Christine DeLozier

As an acupuncturist and herbalist in private practice, Christine DeLozier, L.Ac., specializes in sexual health, treating males, females, and all orientations and identities.

Acupuncture is great for sexual function, but to address the underlying mechanics of consistently great sex, the key is diet. For this reason, she works with patients to develop dietary habits that support their sexual goals.

Connect with Christine DeLozier

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Website: https://christinedelozier.com/

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Full Transcript

Wellness Renegades Podcast

Episode 8: The Diet for Great Sex

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

people, leafy greens, sex, diet, eating, patients, book, research, treat, sexual health, zinc, erections, food, antioxidants, table, affects, hormones, fertility, female, body

SPEAKERS

Christine DeLozier, Jason Stein

 

Jason Stein  00:02

Welcome to the Wellness Renegade podcast! We'll explore the crossroads of wellness entrepreneurs like you and me who are committed to making money while living healthier lives. People who are going against big pharma insurance conglomerates and the mainstream medical world. We'll be journeying into the challenges and breakthroughs it takes to own your own business, pave the path through mainstream medical care, and truly become a Wellness Renegade. I'm Jason Stein, and I'm here today with Christine DeLozier. Welcome!

 

Christine DeLozier  00:38

Thank you so much. And thanks so much for having me on your show. I'm so excited to be here.

 

Jason Stein  00:42

I'm so happy you said yes, because you're also a Chinese Medicine expert. You're an acupuncturist and herbalist. But you just wrote this great book "Diet for Great Sex." And so tell us a little bit about you and how you got the idea for this.

 

Christine DeLozier  00:59

Sure. So I've always been kind of obsessed with health and nutrition and food in general. I'm a whole lot of foodie. I love the aesthetic of food, I take pics of food, I take the extra time to just make things look nice. But also, you know, before I became an acupuncturist, in private practice, specializing in sexual health, I was trained as a research scientist. And so I kind of brought that to the table as well. And when I was treating patients, and you know - as you know, as practitioners of Chinese medicine, we are always looking to treat the root of wellness, not just the branches, not just the symptoms, we're looking to treat the root. And so when we're thinking about something like sexual health, we have to include diet in that route. So I worked with patients to, to come up with dietary strategies to support their goals. And what I wanted to do was I wanted to look in the medical literature to see what kind of evidence there was to support that link. And so my book focuses on how to eat for sexual health. And it takes into consideration a lot of the modern research while honoring the wisdom of traditional Chinese medicine. There's not much that's, that's incompatible with one another, it's just a different way of looking at things for the most part. We know we want to move qi and blood, you know, for sexual function. And so in in doing this, I, I reviewed a ton of clinical and epidemiological research in formulating this, this plan. So everything is backed by science, but it's also through the lens of traditional Chinese medicine, as well.

 

Jason Stein  02:54

Let's go back for a second before the books written, like how do you get your patients in the beginning to even talk about their sex life?

 

Christine DeLozier  03:03

I didn't have to. I was treating, you know, as most of us our bread and butter is usually you know, things like back pain, neck pain, headaches, things like that. And one of the patients I was treating for low back pain, one day said to me, you know, is there anything that you could do to help me have stronger erections? And I said, you know, what, hey, I'll give it a try. Certainly, it's something that I trained for in school, but it's not something that I've had the pleasure of treating. And so one of the points that I wanted to do was run one and do one on this particular patient.

 

Jason Stein  03:37

So for the listeners that don't know, those are points on the body around the genitals.

 

Christine DeLozier  03:42

Yeah, one of them's in the perineum, it's between the testicles and anus. And I was so nervous about asking this guy "Can I needle that?" That was the first time that I, that I wanted to, I was shortly out of acupuncture school. And so I basically asked him, and he was so comfortable with it, he's like, "Yeah, sure, no problem." And I treated this patient, he had great results, and he was so happy. You don't really help, you know, the issues that he was dealing with, with his wife, you know, some intimacy issues, and, you know, that were caused by that the (inaudible) was having. So it really helped to help to enhance his life and his his connection with his partner, then I treated a few more patients for sexual health, and they also had really good results. And I thought, wow, you know, this is something that's really hard to treat, period. It's hard to treat with Western medicine. It's it's hard to treat and the fact that we're getting such good results, it made me want to treat more patients like that. So I just decided to specialize in in that because I thought, wow, I actually have the ability to make a difference in people's lives. So that's what got me there.

 

Jason Stein  04:56

I imagine there was a line at the door! I have a past client Danny Bruner out of Portland, Oregon, and she does an ED protocol: erectile dysfunction. And man who knew there were that many men struggling with erections. I had no idea but the go-to is usually Viagra or some other thing, but it doesn't create any connection in the bedroom. Right? Oh, I love where you're going with this. Now, where did you, you said you've always been a foodie. But how did you start to pair this? You know, I don't even know because I haven't read the book yet. I don't know what foods are good for erections.

 

Christine DeLozier  05:37

So let's just go back to the basics. For a moment, let's think about what it means to have great sex. You know, when we think about great sex, we think of the right partner, the right mood, we think of all these psychological things, but physiologically, great sex is when our nerves are firing strong, rapid impulses to and from the genitals, it's when the qi is strong and quick, you know, when when we want it to be. It's when our blood vessels are delivering adequate blood flow. And it's when our sex hormones are balanced. And of course, blood flow - we all know, it's, it's important for male sexual health. But most people don't realize that when females have better blood flow, they have better sexual satisfaction, they have more lubrication, they have an easier time orgasming, they have just more pleasure altogether. So it's important for male and female sexual health. And so food very much affects this trifecta of great sex. There are a lot of studies to support this, I was amazed by how much research there is out there to show the effect that food has on sexual health. And so you know, for example, something like antioxidants, antioxidants, very clearly in research, speed and strengthen nerve conduction. And when, for example, they've studied patients with type two diabetes, who were having sexual dysfunction, you know, reduced pleasure, and they added antioxidants into their diets, and they had better, more sexual satisfaction.

 

Jason Stein  07:08

Let's slow it down just a little bit. And for the listeners, or viewers: what's a antioxidant?

 

Christine DeLozier  07:14

So, life causes stress, it causes what we call oxidative stress to our body to ourselves to our our tissues, and antioxidants. Basically, they protect our tissues from this stress, they either prevent oxidation, or they help ameliorate the damage to tissues. So antioxidants are found in generally in fruits and vegetables. There are some superstars of antioxidants like spinach, like blueberries, things like that. But generally, if you're eating a lot of fresh fruits and vegetables, you're getting a lot of antioxidants. And, you know, I actually wrote a whole chapter on mushrooms because they're kind of antioxidant superstars. But they offer so much in the way of function. And pretty much this entire trifecta of great sex now, they offer lots of blood vessels, to nerves, to hormones, and so they're they're just kind of wonderful to add to our diet.

 

Jason Stein  08:15

So Popeye and olive oil had great sex.

 

Christine DeLozier  08:18

Yeah, I'm sure that they did. Yeah. He was, quite honestly - if I'm being honest, that's probably the best thing that you could put in your body for great sex: spinach or leafy greens in general. You know, if you look at other primates, you'll see that they eat loads and loads of leaves all the time. And so we too, should be eating a lot more leaves. You know, we think of this balance, you know, the five flavors: the sweet, the salty, the sour, the bitter. You know, we're neglecting the bitter flavor - which is what leafy greens brings to the table - when we favor the salty and sweet flavors. You know, with all the processed foods in our diet, but leafy greens, they bring so much to the table. So they have their loads of antioxidants. They also really luxuriate the vessels so they soften the inner lining of our blood vessels to help make them more elastic, more able to bring blood flow. They're high in dietary nitrates, which promote vascular health in general. And they even help balance sex hormones. So leafy greens reduce cortisol, which is a stress hormone, and it can sabotage your testosterone levels in male and female, you know, males and females and that's both important for our libido, for our sexual health, overall sexual function and pleasure.

 

Jason Stein  09:43

And are you finding that men and women are equally as motivated to change their diet or is there one that's like, like, "I'm ready", and the others like "I don't know."

 

Christine DeLozier  09:54

Well, I see more, I see more patients for sexual health that are male. I see more people wanting to read my book who are female, you know, so?

 

Jason Stein  10:08

Do they leave a copy on the table, on the kitchen table?

 

Christine DeLozier  10:11

Right? Yeah. Yeah, so I guess, I guess yeah. At least from my experience? No, you know, I don't know. It, I guess it's kind of mixed. I don't know what I would say about that. I don't know who's more motivated. But I mean, people with a health mindset in general, you know, you can make small changes. Well, there's so many things I talked with my patients, even the most, you know, that even the person who's eating McDonald's daily can make small changes. You change your lunch, you know, even if you're sticking with McDonald's for breakfast, or McDonald's for dinner, if you can change your lunch, you can bring a lot to the table. So one of the things I try to do is say, Okay, let's focus on lunch: try to everyday when you're going to work, bring a big, huge leafy green salad, a spinach salad and maybe a big yam or something which can bring some potassium. And we can have a little discussion about potassium and what it brings to sexual function. But that actually kind of leads me to another off topic, or another tangent rather, which is that, you know, what about salads and them being raw, you know. In traditional Chinese dietetics, we, we learned that you're not supposed to eat raw foods, that it can introduce pathogens into the body, it can weaken the skin qi, especially cold, raw foods. And then we have modern science, which says that one of the best things that you can eat are, you know, salads, raw cells and things like that. You can certainly seem then depending on your digestion, depending on how weak your spleen qi is. So for some people, they may want to be sauteeing them. The other thing is,

 

Jason Stein  11:48

obviously, you're down again, you're really, you're a clinician, so you automatically you're like spleen qi. And so for the viewers that aren't familiar with medicine, that's just a diagnosis about an area of your body that has a weakness. Yeah.

 

Christine DeLozier  12:03

Yeah, exactly. I mean, in many ways, the spleen qi thing equates to our digestive microbiome, in many ways. So we can weaken that through a lot of different things, you know, whether it's ionics, whether it's cold herbs, you know, that sort of thing. But anyways, so my kind of reconciliation between those two is just making sure that if you are eating a salad, that it's extremely fresh. So some of the stuff that I see in the grocery store is not fresh at all. It's in a package, it's in those clam shells, you open it up and your nose is met with this like, really unpleasant aroma, supposedly fresh, you know,

 

Jason Stein  12:48

Getting the visual, it's in a kid plastic container.

 

Christine DeLozier  12:51

Yeah, exactly. You know, so you want it to be super fresh so that you're not introducing pathogens into your body.

 

Jason Stein  12:58

So the farmers market is your friend.

 

Christine DeLozier  13:00

Exactly. Exactly.

 

Jason Stein  13:02

So I'm just fascinated by by the topic itself. And do you have patients that start changing their diet? And then they're, they're like, I didn't think great sex was possible. I get like, they're blown away?

 

Christine DeLozier  13:16

Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, a lot, that a lot of patients will experience that. I mean, I have a lot of patients who are experienced that with acupuncture, too. I have a patient I was just treating recently, like, he just thought that premature ejaculation was just part of his constitution, and it completely went away and has reared its face. Again, that was just from acupuncture. He has not made a lot of dietary changes. But, um, yeah, with with diet, you can see changes in the short term. And in the long run, after even a couple weeks of changing your diet, you may, you know, people oftentimes noticed more sensitivity, easier time having an orgasm in the case for my female patients. So it does, there's even research to support that one single meal can have an effect on sexual function that night. So there are certain foods for example, that will take your testosterone shortly after eating them. High sugar meal that released bytes glucose, or you eat a really fatty meal, both of those have shown to have been shown to sharply drop testosterone after eating them. And that's definitely not what you want for the evening. And then on the other hand, there are other foods that have been shown to improve blood flow shortly after so they've actually measured this they've measured arterial function like a couple hours after eating certain foods and one of these categories of fluids are leafy greens because it's any kind of food that's high in dietary nitrates. That includes your beets, that includes leafy greens or celery. A lot of times athletes use these foods as either a pre workout or just to, you know, improve performance, while they're, you know, competing and that sort of thing, but for the same reason, they're great for sex. So you include this dietary nitrate, potassium rich meal will also improve blood flow in the short term. And then another one is probably females. So I actually created a whole date night sex menu, based on all of these little, you know, research gems showing the short term effects of food. Now -

 

Jason Stein  15:33

Where does chocolate fall on the spectrum?

 

Christine DeLozier  15:36

So there's a chapter in my book on aphrodisiacs, and I basically tried to focus on ones that had some research to support their advocacy. Chocolates on every list of aphrodisiacs, and it's been used, you know, throughout history, even as back as far back as you know, Montezuma would supposedly drink like 50 cups of chocolate a day to satisfy all of his wives.

 

Jason Stein  16:05

Some myth involved with it, but okay.

 

Christine DeLozier  16:09

Well, the thing is, there's there's they've tried lots of times, this has been studied many times, and for the most part it failed to produce any results, you know.

 

Jason Stein  16:19

Chocolate company created this story, that chocolate improves your sex life. Is there no data? That -

 

Christine DeLozier  16:27

No, yeah, there's no, there's no research to support that. Oh, however, actually, I'll refer my book, there is a - you know, it does other things, I believe, for mood and things like that. So that's a kind of an indirect way to get yourself ready for sex. If you're feeling good, you're more likely to, you know, be in the mood. And there's other foods like that, too. Like, just vitamin C, Vitamin C rapidly improves mood, and I didn't see any studies on what that looked like, chemically. You know, what chemicals we're talking about, are we talking about dopamine, are we talking about serotonin, but it does improve mood, and that that would lead me to believe that that will be a good thing to add, you know, date night, because, you know, of course, sexual function and pleasure involves this dopamine pathway. And when you're chemically in a better place, you're going to have a better time.

 

Jason Stein  17:19

I love that you're such,  you're such a like, neurotransmitter nerd. Okay, so tonight, we're gonna have this special meal. And I feel, I feel bad because I'm guessing alcohol, although it lessens the, you know - it builds your courage and things like that - that the opposite side is probably not that good for you. And so yeah, I'm thinking about all those people that are going on a date to an Italian dinner having buttery pasta, several glass of wine and, and like tiramisu for dessert. And then they go home, and oh, yeah, I'll see you tomorrow.

 

Christine DeLozier  17:58

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. There's actually - I wrote a little story, kind of the same thing, you know, chicken alfredo, followed by the creme brulee. Um, but yes, you know, they. There is, let's see, what can you repeat your question? Sorry.

 

Jason Stein  18:20

Oh, I there wasn't a question there. It's just like, really? What the media has trained us that is really going to get us in the mood and have us have a great sex life sound. Yes. There's no data points or metrics behind on the on the research.

 

Christine DeLozier  18:36

Oh, yeah. And you talked about alcohol. That's what it was. Sorry, I lost my train of thought there. But alcohol. Yes. So it is true alcohol really doesn't bring much to the table. And in fact, you can, you can probably argue that it's that it's a detriment to great sex in the long term. But if you're good to drink and get yourself in the mood, it can help and there are certain drinks that you can make that'll at least bring something to the table, you know, for sex. So for example, I just made recently this blackberry Margarita, and I actually found it and posted it. If you mash up some blackberries, you squeeze in, you know, like a full lime that you know, full lime juice and mix it with a little bit of tequila. I even mashed up a little bit of fresh thyme and threw it in there to kind of elevate the flavor and serve it over ice. And it is actually delicious, you know, delicious. Yeah, it brings lots of vitamin C to the table it brings your polyphenol to the table your fresh thyme. So overall, it had a lot to bring, you know, even though you had the alcohol in it, so there's certain ones that are better choices than others.

 

Jason Stein  19:47

Now is this your next book? Like "Cocktails for Great Sex?"

 

Christine DeLozier  19:51

I'm such a foodie. I've been just kind of implementing the, you know the the practices, what I should write - is my next book is "Diet for Bad Sex," and then I could include all of the things that I love to eat that taste great.

 

Jason Stein  20:07

Yeah, homemade mac and cheese.

 

Christine DeLozier  20:09

Yeah, exactly.

 

Jason Stein  20:12

So this is I just I love this because I think if the people of the world had healthier sex lives, that people would be happier. Like, I really believe that. And so, how many people do you think go and just start taking medication, or get hopeless and feel like there's no hope at all? Is that like, really, really common?

 

Christine DeLozier  20:39

It's super common. And the thing about it is that that people don't realize, as you very well know, is that when you go to your doctor, you're automatically going to get a pharmaceutical approach to whatever you're coming in to treat. So you go to your doctor, they're not going to, for the most part, talk to you about changing your diet. They're going to talk to you about what pill you can take, whether it's Viagra or Cialis, or any of those. And so, you know, one of the first things that doctors think of when somebody comes in for erectile dysfunction, for example, is I think about heart disease, because that's one of the early warnings of of heart disease. And unfortunately, the arteries and the penis and the clitoris are among the smallest in the body. So when we get any amount of plaque accumulation, it shows up there in sexual function first, but depending on how occluded they are, you know, we, the time it takes to see results with something like diet does depend on how occluded those arteries are. But if they're not fully occluded, you can see results pretty quickly with diet. And, you know, something like heart disease has always been thought of as progressive and irreversible. And now they're finding that that's not entirely true, there's actually - leafy greens, were shown in research to actually reverse some of that plaque accumulation Not, not all of it, but some of it, but it's still really, it's still really impressive that it has the ability to even do that. So if you're in the, or if you're just starting to, you know, notice a, decline in sexual pleasure, for example, as a female or, or that erections are sometimes not as strong... You know, that's the time to jump in, start really eating tons of leafy greens, and of course, the other stuff in the book. And you can see a major improvement quite rapidly.

 

Jason Stein  22:40

This is great. Like something as simple as, as bringing in some plant-based diet into your life can improve your sex life is pretty amazing. And I'm sure anyone who's vegan is like, yeah, I've been telling you that forever. Now, what about red meat?

 

Christine DeLozier  22:58

So, you know, that's an interesting question. It's a research very clearly shows that a, we're eating too much fat and B, that this affects our health and negative way. However, on the other hand, meat does bring a lot to the table. It's one of the best ways to get your zinc for example, you know, there's zinc in in beans, you know, legumes, even grains, things like that, but they're attached to this thing called phytates. And so if you're not soaking your beans, and your and your grains, then it still has those phytates which interfere with zinc absorption. So whereas something like meat it's readily available zinc, for example, and then of course, you have the B12 issue, and you have some other nutrients that that meat does bring to the table. But having said that, we've probably too much meat for sure. You know, we don't need to be eating -

 

Jason Stein  23:55

Don't tell that to the Paleo people. I do - I eat a lot of meat, but I it's all grass fed and locally sourced. So I think having a freezer full of a half cow is is healthy.

 

Christine DeLozier  24:11

I've done that too in the past. And yeah, I do the same thing. I try to be as humane as possible and as healthy as possible with with my meat consumption. And I kind of feel like on an energetic roll. I don't know if this sounds gonna sound weird to anybody. But I feel like taking into my body, the kind of energetics of this animal that's been had a really, you know, inhumane life. You know, like some of the pigs that are raised, they have these quarters when it can't even turn around and everything. And when an animal is in so much stress and you're taking that meat into your body, it just doesn't sit right with me.

 

Jason Stein  24:50

Yeah, I don't think most people would eat any meat if they went to the farm. That is like a big conglomerate. And you know chickens with three legs and no beak and -

 

Christine DeLozier  25:02

Yeah.

 

Jason Stein  25:06

I've found that if you prepare, and you get a freezer, if you can afford it, that going to farms that are really, you know, free range, no hormones, no GMO, that the price isn't that much different,

 

Christine DeLozier  25:26

right? Yeah, if you can really (inaudible). Yeah, I did that too. I think I bought a quarter cow on time. And yeah, it was - per pound, it was reasonable

 

Jason Stein  25:35

It tastes so much better.

 

Christine DeLozier  25:37

Yeah, it really does.

 

Jason Stein  25:39

So there's a new book on the market called Countdown. It's Shana Swan. And she's a researcher on how   it's phylates? There's bleaching and plastic that's going and causing testosterone and hormone problems for males, and decreasing the fertility rate by 1% per year. And all of my fertility clients are booming, like, I didn't realize that fertility was such a major issue. And I'm really curious, in addition to great sex, are you finding that your patients are getting pregnant more often?

 

Christine DeLozier  26:22

Yeah, I do treat I do treat fit fertility patients. And the book could just as easily be called, you know, "Diet for Fertility," because, you know, fertility and great sex kind of operate on the same mechanism in the body. And, you know, I actually have a chapter - there's two things on the chapter, or two topics that I have chapters on in the book, which talk about some of the environmental exposure that we have that absolutely 100% very clearly in research is affected. It affects our hormones. It affects our sex lives. It affects fertility. One of the things is our exposure to heavy metals. And, you know, toxins, we get this from, like that book that you mentioned, from the plastics, we get it from our air, from our food. We get cadmium from our food sources, and less from organics, but it's still there because of the smelting. And people think that you need to like live next to a factory or a dump site in order to have this environmental heavy metal exposure. And it's not true, the amount that we're exposed to is much greater than in past times. And this is for the average person, there's plenty of research to support it. And there's loads of research to show that it disrupts hormones.

 

Jason Stein  27:38

This is a really interesting question, because I've been thinking about this, and it's a controversial question to even ask, but do you think the external pathogens that are disrupting hormones, especially in fetuses, it's creating this new gender fluid community, like people are evolving into this different place?

 

Christine DeLozier  27:58

You know, that's a - I have not researched that well enough to to make that kind of statement, what I do know is that very much people's hormones are being affected by our new, the new, normal of, you know, toxin exposure, you know, so, so, definitely, there's hormonal effects, that affects, you know, that affects everything. It affects weight, it affects, you know, other things. So, for example, I have a friend who his body just stopped producing testosterone. And he became very sick. He was sick for three years, and nobody thought to check his testosterone. And all of a sudden, you know, now he gets testosterone injections, but he was very sick for years, he gained a lot of weight as well, you know, 100 pounds, and just had no energy. So, you know, this is affecting people more and more whether or not how much of that was related to his exposure to environmental toxins, who knows, but it's happening more and more,

 

Jason Stein  29:03

you know, moderately, and so his diet. Talk to me just a little bit about environmental toxins. I'm guessing the diet really protects you a bit of what other things can people do with all the environmental toxins? Because it seems like in the US, at least, there's no regulations on new chemicals, and people can just throw things out there, and I live in the country and people are really responsible, but I noticed that someone was using some pesticides that like that, just like leeches into the water and like all sorts of things happen, right?

 

Christine DeLozier  29:43

Yeah. Well, you know, interestingly enough, most of the research that I found showed that diet does have a big effect in nutritional status as a big effect. So the higher our intake of minerals like magnesium, calcium and zinc, the - the lower we have, the less toxic heavy metals our bodies will absorb when we're exposed to them. For example, that's one thing that we can do to protect ourselves. Then there are other foods that we can eat that are called chelators. And they were actually shown in research to be more effective than the pharmaceutical chelators. So when somebody had an acute, like a very specific exposure to Mercury, for example, they, the natural ones were better at latching onto those and delivering them from the body. So a lot of those are things like cilantro, onions, depending on the research depends on which metal we're talking about. But, you know, a lot of some of the leafy greens, you know, some of the cruciferous vegetables, for example, reduced absorption of certain toxic heavy metals, and then some of them actually will reduce the levels in your body in your tissue. So that's, so it's and also, the other thing is, having a high intake of antioxidants, helps combat the damage caused by exposure to these heavy metals, because a lot of this damage is oxidative stress.

 

Jason Stein  31:07

Interesting. So cortisone goes up, oxidation happens, breaks down at a cellular level. And so I'm really fascinated because you have done all the research, in addition to like, this is probably good in theory. So you're looking at the data points. And one of the things I'm really fascinated with, I grew up in the 70s. And, you know, vitamin C and Linus Pauling, and, you know, vitamin C was the go to, and now I'm hearing zinc on almost like, big with COVID as well like zinc, vitamin D. I have two questions. One is, um, for zinc, what superfoods are there, what foods do we get a lot of zinc in?

 

Christine DeLozier  31:58

Well, leafy greens, again, are one of them. So spinach, you know, romaine, green leaf, all of your lettuces that are diet, nice little dark and green, you know, kale, that sort of thing. But also meat, red meat is a superfood. So it's not in - you can't say the same about chicken or some of the others. You know, it's it's way more in red meat.

 

Jason Stein  32:20

And so the second thing is this past year, during the pandemic, people were afraid to go the grocery store, I think grubhub probably hit an all time high with any delivery service of restaurants to your which is good, because it saved some restaurants from closing. But But my question is, why do you think there isn't more public health education about diet?

 

Christine DeLozier  32:44

Well, let's look at the basic, you know, where do doctors get their education from? The education is from the pharmaceutical industry, you know, so this, the whole premise of modern medicine is evidence-based medicine. And evidence means research, and who funds research, it's the pharmaceutical companies, there's very little research that they're getting exposed to that does come from other sources. So given that you kind of have all you need to know about why it's not a bigger push people in mainstream medicine are being taught by farm, if that makes sense.

 

Jason Stein  33:25

Yeah, it makes sense. And and I haven't done the research in the last five years, but five years ago, physicians were getting one class in nutrition and their entire medical career. Right? Oh, to me that that's mind blowing, that you go to school to help people as a doctor, and you get one class in nutrition. And I hope that has changed since then.

 

Christine DeLozier  33:49

Yeah. And that's not to disparage any physicians at all, you know, not in any way. There are a lot of really, really great doctors out there who are doing everything that they can but they have to look outside of you know, that paradigm to do you know, so modern medicine it does really well with things like acute you know, heart attacks or you know -

 

Jason Stein  34:11

Broken arm?

 

Christine DeLozier  34:12

Yep, stuff like that. It doesn't do so well with chronic illness, with inflammation with any of those kind of conditions and as a physician, you really have to look past that and look at things like nutrition.

 

Jason Stein  34:24

Do you think in the next 10 years we're gonna like have new drugs on the market like kale and all? Spinach? Like are they gonna try to like capture it into a pill?

 

Christine DeLozier  34:38

If there's money to be made, you know.

 

Jason Stein  34:43

I guess the supplement world does that, and some companies do a good job at it but I know that natural food source is always better than the supplementation when you when you can get it that way.

 

Christine DeLozier  34:54

Absolutely. Like for example, you know, dietary nitrates are great for vascular health, and they even immediately dilate blood vessel for more blood flow. So companies tried making these nitrate supplements, for example, and they were found to actually be detrimental to help, you know. So I see I feel like getting your food, your nutrients from food sources is the best way.

 

Jason Stein  35:19

And so do you have strategic alliances? Like exercise for great sex, so that you get them on the diet and then someone else gets them moving? Or is that something you do?

 

Christine DeLozier  35:29

I do have a chapter on exercise! I did do a little bit of research, because it is fundamental, you know, it does affect your body chemistry. It affects your sex hormones that affects your receptivity to sexual stimulation. And so it's yeah, definitely, really important. So there's a chapter on exercise as well.

 

Jason Stein  35:46

Is there a chapter on meditation?

 

Christine DeLozier  35:49

A little bit, there's a little bit, but not as much as there should be given the fact that I'm, you know, a practitioner of Eastern medicine, but there's a little, little part on that. Yeah, I mean, I recommended that people explore more in that as well, because it really does help to reduce cortisol, which, again, can affect testosterone and sex hormones.

 

Jason Stein  36:12

I've just fascinated because we know this, but it's like pulling, you know, it's like the Wizard of Oz. It's like, the more we talk about it, it's like, oh, yeah, my diet's pretty good, but I can make it even cleaner. And, like, I have a really good sex life. I can say that on air. And why not make it even better? Right?

 

Christine DeLozier  36:32

Yeah, exactly.

 

Jason Stein  36:34

So I just, I really appreciate having you today. And I want to help more people get turned on to your book. And so where can they find it?

 

Christine DeLozier  36:45

Amazon. It's called Diet for Great Sex. And yep, it's on Amazon. And if you want to find me, you can go to my website, which is DietForGreatSex.com

 

Jason Stein  36:54

Great, and we'll have all your links in the show notes if people want to follow you. You want to give a shout out to any of your social channels right now.

 

Christine DeLozier  37:03

That Yeah, I was so proud of this Tik Tok video that I just made. It didn't really do very well. I must be the only one liked it. But I'm on Tik Tok as Diet for Great Sex, and also Instagram as Diet For Great Sex.

 

Jason Stein  37:17

I'm looking forward to seeing it! I'll throw the Tik Tok video or at least the channel below. And, again, I just I just so appreciate having you today because this channel is about renegades and you're definitely going up - like your competition is Viagra and physicians that are just prescribing a pill for the problem. And my guess is your patients are super happy. And your readers are really excited to know that there's some empowerment things that they can do.

 

Christine DeLozier  37:49

Yeah, I really tried to make the book fun to read. So it's, I wanted it to be smart, funny, and provide a ton of really useful information. And I think that I've done that. But the feedback I'm getting is good. So I'm really happy about Yeah.

 

Jason Stein  38:04

Well, thanks for being here today.

 

Christine DeLozier  38:06

Thank you so much, Jason,

 

Jason Stein  38:08

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